Pokémon Platinum Version

Nintendo DS

SheepOfIce 27 May 2024 21:35

Yeah, this achievement definitely violates the pointless excessive grinding unwelcome concept. As far as I know there is no reward for getting 3000 CP and I've seen much less excessive achievements demoted (such as [ach=7510]).

I think a more reasonable achievement would be to rescore this at 5 or less points and make the requirement 1000 CP or to unlock rank 3 of the healing & berry/item rentals. This would make it more in-line with the 30 trade battle factory achievement and is easily achieveable before battle 21 using the +5 level feature or before battle 49 otherwise.

As it stands now, if you ended every battle at 100% HP and no status ailments for all mons with each opponent mon at level 55 (profiting 10 CP at the beginning of the set and 47 CP after each battle for a total profit of 339 per set), it would take 8 full sets and 6 battles (56 total battles). There probably is a team that can achieve this, but it would probably be quicker just to use whatever team is being used for the rest of the frontier.

I'll still work towards the achievement as-is and am keeping track of my time spent but I want to report this if it's not changed after I master to make the experience better for the rest of the community looking to master the set.

EmilyYohane 26 Jun 2024 04:01

Hard agree, maybe it could be added to a subset but otherwise definitely doesn't belong with the main game.

Manufacturer 23 Jul 2024 15:12

Report Excessive Grinding guys. This is boring and kills the set.

SheepOfIce 23 Jul 2024 16:00

I don't disagree that the POC sets are grindier, but the unwelcome concept guideline states to stay away from excessive grinding in the base set unless there is an in-game reward of some kind (see https://docs.retroachievements.org/guidelines/content/unwelcome-concepts.html#pointless-excessive-grinding).

This achievement took 8 out of the 87 hours I spent mastering this set without any in-game reward (aside from the record monitor stating how many battles were done). I have no issue grinding personally, especially with fast forward, but because of the published guideline I think this achievement needs to change in some way, whether it be moving to a subset or having the requirements be reduced.

SheepOfIce 23 Jul 2024 16:47

Catching all the Pokémon is excessive, yes, because you definitely don't need them all to beat the game. However, catching each Pokémon does have an in-game reward of Pokédex entries. Sure, it is a small reward but a reward nonetheless. We may disagree on what qualifies as excessive, but we agree that this doesn't belong in the base set so that is good enough for me. :)

Manufacturer 11 Sep 2024 12:17

finally omg ridiculous achievement

Hyraoo 5 Oct 2024 21:46

This is honestly by far the worst achievement in the set. You can get suddenly destroyed at any moment when running with little to no items and enemies at +5 levels. Especially when the difficulty caps out. I feel 1,500 is a fair amount but 3,000 is beyond ridiculous.

carlosrhv 7 Oct 2024 22:16

teams and strategies used by the current wr holder of battle castle if needed for this
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/4th-generation-battle-facilities-discussion-and-records.3663294/page-13#post-10222949

Agnam 23 Nov 2024 11:31

That was painful. Had a few runs die as early as round 30 due to trying to save points. Lost last night at 2700, and won today. My team was Garchomp, Blissey and Lapras. Using the team Carlosrhv linked, I swapped Blisseys Seismic Toss for Toxic and stalled when needed. The team wasn't the best but got the job done in the end.

AvaTheKonata 3 Dec 2024 21:35

So, uh... how do I unlock this if I already passed the new threshold (but not the old one) before it got changed?

AvaTheKonata 3 Dec 2024 21:44

Ah, I got it. Just had to keep spending CP to get below 1500, then go back above it.