Chrono Trigger

SNES/Super Famicom

Zintag 11 May 2025 08:21

Well there wouldn't be any "achievements" if you could walk past everything you could achieve

Mophmeister 11 May 2025 14:37

You could've just made a separate save there and continue on with the story. That's what I did...

LunaticSlave 11 May 2025 16:13

...or just do it in Game+, thats what I did. :)

sleepyretroid 11 May 2025 16:27

This has to be the saltiest achievement comment section on this whole site. Lmao.

PeterAndWhitney 11 May 2025 16:31

@sleepyretroid: Well the achievement itself is pointless and disproportionately difficult compared to the rest of the set, so... Yeah. At this point it feels like this is an intentional troll trophy, designed solely to piss people off, and despite it being reported by many users as potentially breaking the rules, the Admins haven't touched it because they think it's hilarious.

It's honestly disappointing, and has made me less inclined to try and contribute/participate more in this community.

Zintag 11 May 2025 17:32

I'm somewhat new to the community and have only started doing hardcore since February of this year (2025) so forgive me if it's a dumb question but where do you see the admins thinking it's hilarious?

As a new member, what I see is an "ok" unlock rate for a very optional achievement. I've done rarer achievements (I'm thinking of Vaati hitless from Zelda Minish Cap) and I trained for them several days whereas here everyone seems to agree that 3 hours training is enough. Doesn't seem that bad.

Also, I have read the guidelines on "un welcomed concepts" and I don't believe this cheevo falls in any of those categories.

Last thought : if the rest of the set is somewhat easy, why should every achievement be on the same level of difficulty? I understand that most players here want to "master" games, but isn't the initial goal to play games, have fun and unwind? If you feel trap grinding for a trophy, maybe you should take a step back (and when I say "you" I don't mean PeterAndWhitney, I'm just talking in general).

I think I'll never master Symphony of The Night, which is a game I adore, but that's OK, I've played it again thanks to RA and that's fine like that.

LunaticSlave 11 May 2025 19:03

My thought exactly, Zintag. RA gives me an excuse to play lots of the games from my childhood thanks to the achievement sets. I try along the way to complete the sets 100%, as long they are fun for me.

If i get into any thats annoying or just cant complete it because my lack of skill on what the achievement requires, I just skip it.

People should just have fun, which is the real purpose of the games, and aim to beat it, if as a bonus you manage to master it then great if not just move on. So many great games out there and so little time, no need to waste it on something thats making you life misserable.

Cheers!! :)

PeterAndWhitney 11 May 2025 20:50

@Zintag: the "Admins thinking it's hilarious" part comes from my own attempt to suggest to them that this achievement might be better placed inside a challenge set, since it's one that has frustrated a lot of people here to have it included in the base set, and their snarky replies on the subject.

Then there are the people in here (even just in replies today) who seem to revel in the schadefreude, insisting to keep the achievement in place simply out of enjoyment of seeing more people inevitably struggle. So now, every few weeks someone new chimes in to ask why this is so hard, and we have the same few people chiming in telling people to "get good or give up."

Instead of seeing this as it is -- a problematic and arbitrary achievement that results in a significant number of complaints (by far the most-discussed thread on this game's set), -- it's viewed as a source of entertainment for trolls, and the Admins have made it clear they support this by refusing to step in and edit the set. They take their precious little creation way too seriously, so rather than balancing the set based on feedback from the players, it becomes a rallying point for elitists who view these sets as sacred and infallible, for some stupid reason.

PeterAndWhitney 11 May 2025 20:52

TL,DR: This achievement is unbalanced, but people here take that precious little checkbox WAY too seriously and refuse to change it.

amicoolyet 11 May 2025 20:52

yeah bud EVERYONE ELSE is taking it way too seriously

PeterAndWhitney 11 May 2025 21:01

Just saying, every few weeks I get another email letting me know someone new is complaining about this challenge, and inevitably the same people always chime in to tell them to "shut up and get good." It's been a predictable thing for the past year, and it's bewildering that after all this time with it STILL getting complaints that there are still people defending it.

Feels very much like the same power-trip type of mentality like the goons at TVtropes. Taking themselves way too seriously and refusing to listen to suggestions/complaints. It's upsetting because this is far from the only set on this site that has a stupid pointless achievement based on a minigame that takes hours to finally unlock, and it kills the fun of trying to master that game's set for many people.

Anyway. Nothing I've said in the past has ever changed anything, so why should it now? Enjoy yourselves, I guess.

amicoolyet 11 May 2025 21:02

🧂

PeterAndWhitney 11 May 2025 21:08

🤡👍

pipichuninja 11 May 2025 21:11

To be honest this was the achievement that made me quit retroachievements altogether.
Good job, and thanks.
And for the people that defend this sh*tty achievement, sorry, for im not a gamer i guess, and you are all gods. All souls games i have platinum, and a few souls likes, but Im not the MAN.

PeterAndWhitney 11 May 2025 21:15

Yup. Gatekeepers coming up with stupid pointless challenges and then defending them as if they're sacred, getting all offended when someone dares to suggest changing them and mocking anyone who tries.

GREAT community you have here, fellas. Very welcoming.

🙄

carlosMand 11 May 2025 21:18

I agree that it takes away the fun for those who just want to play, but achieving it is not that difficult, it is a matter of practice and about 2 hours of your life, unfortunately.

SunsetAvalon 11 May 2025 23:57

Not this again 😭

Misa 12 May 2025 02:19

again and again, probably :D

as someone who got the achievement and personally didn't mind it, i would be down with lowering it to 1500 (your first 1500 gets a Power Tab from the funnymans while 1700 doesn't have a reward, if i recall). but that's not my problem, at least as far as this is concerned XD

doofsupreme 13 May 2025 14:08

1700 is fine, git gud.

Here's the tutorial vid for those coming here looking for advice, since grown adults whining about video games has once again pushed it off the main page:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfcrYmu4AHM

ModelZGolden 16 May 2025 03:41

thank you @doofsupreme