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Posted: 04 Jun, 2016 12:28
Last Edit: 04 Feb, 2019 11:27
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1. bps Patch + Digital Devil Story - Megami Tensei (Japan).nes
V14- RA Checksum: 65f4e6c7698df12b4185b72e2b147f57
V15+ RA Checksum: a8e3f53d818dcabdc83a9f9eb695e634
ROM Checksum: 73761482acd71c5a140274c036448c6c
CRC32 Checksum: E809508F

2. Digital Devil Story - Megami Tensei (Japan).nes
Digital Devil Monogatari - Megami Tensei (J) [!].nes
V14- RA Checksum: ae827178307f96b1d1511b637d4c0340
V15+ RA Checksum: d99bdc0b1e6d146d593e933f74bbe4d3
ROM Checksum: 2334c310475f164384ac504bd9780f96
CRC32 Checksum: F906ACAB

Plus 2 unique ROM Checksum variations with the same V14- RA Checksum (2 total)
Digital Devil Monogatari - Megami Tensei (J) {[b1], [b2]}

3. Digital Devil Story - Megami Tensei.nes [v1.0 Patch]
bps Patch + Digital Devil Story - Megami Tensei (Japan).nes
V15+ RA Checksum: 9070a50282df3937a9b90358dc97aa31
ROM Checksum: 70e6725348fe617905d65059fb526ef1
CRC32 Checksum: AC5ACC89

v1.0 Patch


Posted: 04 Jun, 2016 12:28

Posted: 16 Jun, 2017 04:23
Last Edit: 06 Nov, 2017 22:41 is done, but my copy links to which is still empty.

Edit: Works now. The achievement titles and descriptions need to be fixed though. Very lazy titles and descriptions, and full of errors.

Posted: 03 Dec, 2017 14:57
Last Edit: 03 Dec, 2017 14:57



I don't speak Japanese nor do I know this game. assured me that getting 20 gems is impossible and 7 is the max.


Translate and search "jewel"

Posted: 13 Dec, 2017 22:28
Last Edit: 13 Dec, 2017 22:45
It is very easy to get 7 jewels, so for a quick point adjustment I would suggest making worth 10 points, since it is missable and time consuming without a guide, and reducing this one to 5 points.

I have other issues with this set, but fixing them would require substantial changes across the board. This should be a simple fix to keep it somewhat balanced for now.

Posted: 17 Dec, 2017 20:04
Last Edit: 17 Dec, 2017 20:51
Now that I have finished the game, I will post all of the issues I have with this set.

1. Stretched sprites in icons, Fog's icon not reflecting its visual effect
2. No checking for cheating that I saw (i.e. you can generate a password and unlock many things "legally" with no effort whatsoever). Of course it is not possible to force players to play through the entire game without loading from a password, but some achievements need delta checks (Macca Master, Mediarahan, the level achievements...)
3. Wrong descriptions. I left comments on a few, some have the wrong floor marked, some have the wrong monster. Some also have the wrong areas, like monsters in 炎の腐海 marked as Mazurka. Not sure if "Hellfire" is the right translation. Daedalus Tower is written "Daelus". At least one other typo ("Sand Looper t").
4. Nonsensical achievement names. Quoting lines from some Persona song in achievements for DDS1 is inappropriate, some names I just don't understand, others follow the pattern "The Secret [word]" where word is either some weird synonym for the monster name, the name of a similar monster that is not the same (e.g. bakeneko/nekomata) or just the monster name itself.
5. The final 8x8 floor in the game hands an achievement for almost every step taken, because there are a bunch of fixed encounters on the way to the end (7, excluding the boss). Instead of giving an achievement for every fixed encounter, plus up to 2 for the boss itself, that number could be reduced to the most important fixed encounters (1 to 3 depending on your criteria, cutting at least 4) and grant less points.
6. Too many checklist/trivial achievements with obvious optional ones missing, like getting the strongest equipment/weapon or the strongest demon.
7. Not sure if this is intentional, but "My Last Pray" still unlocks as long as every summoned demon is withdrawn before winning the battle.
8. Questionable achievements, like "Twelve Labors" which is earned through a fixed encounter, but the same encounter occurs many times in the same area, and yet it is only granted in one specific point that I know of. Same deal for "The Secret Dodongo". I would remove these two.
9. Mostly minor issues, but some questionable point distributions, like the one mentioned in my last post, as well as weird point value fluctuations for fixed encounter achievements.
10. Achievements that contain spoilers. Bosses are mentioned in the manual, so those are fine. I think RA should have a Steam-like feature to hide spoiler achievements, but in this case, as almost every major event in the game is associated with being awarded an item, changing the conditions to obtaining such and such item would be simple.

The two most important things to fix in my opinion are #5, #6 and #8. I would remove the two achievements in #8, remove the "free" achievements in #5 (keeping Belzebub, Fog, maybe Astaroth), then add some optional achievements for getting the strongest weapon (which is optional and challenging) and for getting the strongest demon. Point distributions should be adjusted in consequence.

Since I am not a Developer (as in the user class), I have not yet looked at changing the rule set or creating new achievements. I have been making some for DDS2, but I would like to fix this and get it over with before I continue working on the sequel. I do not mind doing the work if a developer can verify and commit the changes for me.

Posted: 03 Jan, 2018 16:55
Last Edit: 03 Jan, 2018 16:57
Renamed to Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei. While the Japanese title is written デジタルデビル物語 女神転生, 物語 is read ストーリー ("story") as indicated by furigana on the box and in the instruction manual. It is frequently abbreviated to DDS (Digital Devil Story), including in the instruction manual.

Posted: 30 Jan, 2018 11:50
Updated patch was released this past week here:
Doesn't work with this set currently though.

Posted: 18 Feb, 2018 17:13
Last Edit: 19 Aug, 2018 23:47
There is a small revision in progress.

Posted: 31 Jul, 2018 05:42
As of today no further major changes (additions/deletions) are planned for this set. Icon revisions for the original set's blurry and distorted images to match the last two achievements (nearest neighbor integer-scaled cropped sprites) are welcome, as are memory offsets/addresses for the 1.0+ English translation patch.

Posted: 27 Aug, 2018 09:49
I finished my initial playthrough a little bit ago. I've been using the no-intro rom + V1 patch and I think it's safe to say that there's no compatibility issues with the achievements. The only problem I had was with the rom itself: game glitched out and froze every time I tried to fight the Sand Looper.

md5 for no-intro + V1 patch is 40d2691b2ae6aa4f2a3ca93c2db22cc8

I still have five achievements to go, which are for defeating bosses in the 2nd quest. I'll probably tackle them throughout the week.

Posted: 09 Nov, 2018 16:31
And over two months later, I still haven't worked up the nerve to finish the 2nd quest...

Posted: 01 Dec, 2018 00:02
Did any managed to find Rusu, the Demon in the bottle, in the second quest?

Posted: 01 Dec, 2018 08:16
Last Edit: 01 Dec, 2018 08:17
I only got past the first boss in 2nd quest before I got too burned out to play it for a while. is the only one I can think of who may have.

Posted: 19 Jan, 2019 04:17
My original rom MD5 was 2334C310475F164384AC504BD9780F96 which matches #2 in the OP. However, after applying the patch indicated, my resulting MD5 is now 70E6725348FE617905D65059FB526EF1 which does not match any linked roms. The patch is a .bps which requires "flips". "Flips" won't patch incorrectly matched roms. Is there something I'm missing?
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